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- Rama Porrat <rama@noa.huji.ac.il> writes,
-
- > I am trying to write a help online manual using www. I think www can be very
- > useful and the stuff I deal with really needs such a system.
- > BUT there are things which must be corrected in order that www will be
- > usable, and I am writing in the hope that you can correct the www
- > or tell me if those things can be corrected soon.
-
- > The most annoying thing is the appearance of a "listing" file
- > on screen when displayed by www. The fact that pages
- > are displayed "backward", that is, you repeat portions of the
- > file alsready displayed when you come to the last page of a file,
- > is unacceptable. It makes a mess out of the display.
- > The way a listing file is displayed should adhere to what's in the
- > file, without any "going back". This is essential.
-
- We haven't noticed this! By "listing" file, do you mean a plain text
- file, or part of a marked-up file which uses the <listing> tag?
- What you describe seems very strange. Please give me a reference to the file
- if it on a server, or else mail it to me. Thanks.
-
- > The way the word [end] is displayed at the end of a screen is not nice.
- > It is too close to the last line and in the "middle" of the line.
- > The www writer should have the option not to display this [end]
- > at all, or otherwise put it in a lower and to the side of the
- > screen.
-
- This is question of taste. It is easy to recompile the browser (just GridText.c)
- with the option to define the macro END_MARK as "". You can do that locally. The
- [end] mark was put in to stop people trying to scroll past the end of the file,
- having to press RETURN every time just to see whether there was any more left. It
- would be simpler not to have it!
-
- Note that the X11 browsers do not have an [end] mark. On VM/XA and MVS systems
- it is <End>. You could make a void (or Hebrew) version if you needed to.
- All these things are in the file GridText.c in the browser implementation.
- You could make a local variant. If others on this list agree, then we could
- incorporate certain options in the master source.
-
- > The h1 header displays numbers which are confusing for the reader.
- > For example, in my listing file, the addition of <h1> displays the numbers (on
- > sequential pages) no numbers on first page
- > (50/64) on next page (64/64) on last page.
- > This is quite confusing.
-
- These numbers should not be connected with the <h1> header. They are the line
- number of the bottom line on the screen, and the line number of the last line in
- the file. They were asked for by users, to give some indication of how far through
- the document one is. The numbers are not displayed on the first page as that
- is displayed before the whole file has been read, for speed.
-
- > You even get numbers like (69/64).
-
- If you could scroll down so that blank space after the document were
- displayed, the bottom line would be greater than the last line. But I can't get it
- to happen. Could you give me the exact sequence you are using, please, along with
- document addresses? And tell me the version number you have (type help to get it).
-
- > Please erase those numbers, or display something clear, like:
- > Page 1 out of 3 etc.
-
- The file is not divided strictly into pages, so to displaying page numbers
- would be confusing. For example, when one returns to a document one has left by a
- link, that link is displayed, if possible, a third of the way down the page. This
- will not necessarily allign with a "page".
-
- > The <title> is inconsistent - at times it appears on screen,
-
- > at other times it doesn't.
-
- Yes. This is a feature of the pipeline optimisation of
- the code. When the document is started, its title is not
- known and neihter is its length. The first characters are
- displayed on the screen as soon as they come in. This
- gives a faster response time
-
- > There should be a possibility to enter the www with a pre-known
- > pointer. For example, saying www tex
- > should be able to give you the top screen pertaining to tex, without
- > going through a number of previous screens.
-
- There is.
- You have to give the network address of the document, which is
- not so simple. It would have to be something like
-
- www http://info/tex
-
- as "www tex" will cause www to read a file "tex" in the local directory.
-
- Note you can define alises for users
-
- alias texhelp www http://info/help/tex/html
- texhelp
-
- for example
-
- >It is also very important to give the possibility of including
- >comments in html sources.
-
- Yes. The <comment> junk </comment> tag is respected by
- recent browsers, but only recent ones: Not the NeXT browser.
-
- I hope this at least explains the raesons for a few things. I have put the
- intermittency of the title on our list of bugs to be fixed. We may put in options
- to control some of the other things. If anyone else on this list has views on these
- things, they should say. It is only from comments from real users what break away
- from our own view of what if "nice" in a browser: Thanks for your feedback.
-
- Tim BL
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